BLACK SABBATH - 13 (11 Juin)

Pingouin · Jean-Pierre Elkathrash Inscrit le: 15 Jan 2010 Messages: 5306

Today, the 13th of January 2013, rock legends BLACK SABBATH have announced the title of their new album, 13, which will be released this June (exact date TBA). The original BLACK SABBATH--OZZY OSBOURNE (vocals), TONY IOMMI (guitar) and GEEZER BUTLER (bass)--have recorded the album primarily in Los Angeles and were joined at the sessions by drummer Brad Wilk (Rage Against The Machine). Produced by Rick Rubin (seven-time Grammy winner, two of those as Producer of the Year), the album will be released on Vertigo (worldwide) and Vertigo/Republic in the U.S. 13 marks the Grammy-winning, Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductees’ return to Vertigo, the band’s original label; it’s the group’s first studio album together since 1978’s Never Say Die! They have sold over 70 million albums together.

C'est le retour des morts-vivants... c'est moche de vieillir.

Le titre de l'album me rassure pas (il avait pas porté chance à Megadeth) et je doute que ce soit beaucoup plus excitant que The Devil You Know.
Mais je suis assez impatient, mine de rien. Ca reste un évènement.

Sven · Posté le: Lun 14 Jan 2013 0:29 Sujet du message:

Brad Wilk à la batterie? Ça va frapper!
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Pietro · Posté le: Lun 14 Jan 2013 13:39 Sujet du message:

Cool ! J'aurais bien sur préféré un retour inespéré de Bill Ward, mais c'est mieux que le batteur d'Ozzy en solo qui les avait accompagné en concert l'année dernière.

Je suis impatience ! DBZ

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Cedric · Dave Mitaine Inscrit le: 27 Oct 2010 Messages: 5504

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Ils ont pris la photo au Musée Grévin ?

Pour l'instant, je reste curieux. Mais pas impatient.
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Pingouin · Jean-Pierre Elkathrash Inscrit le: 15 Jan 2010 Messages: 5306

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Je ne savais même pas que ce groupe était encore actif.
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Pingouin · Posté le: Sam 19 Jan 2013 19:50 Sujet du message:

Pour Dio, je voulais surtout dire qu'il y mettait pas vraiment de conviction. Il avait toujours son timbre et tout le reste, mais il faisait pas d'étincelles. Je vais pas reprocher à un sexagénaire d'être moins brillant que quand il avait 30 balais.

Bible Black rul3z effectivement, mais c'est bien le seul.
Ca aurait été un album de Cathedral ou Candlemass, on en aurait pas fait tout un foin. Faut croire que Iommi n'a plus de bons riffs dans sa musette depuis Tyr.

Cedric · Dave Mitaine Inscrit le: 27 Oct 2010 Messages: 5504

Bon allez, ok Pingouin, tu le sais, souvent on est d'accord sur le fond et je reprends juste la forme. Je te prends pas pour un débile, je sais que t'irais pas comparer le Dio de 30 ans à celui de 'DYN'

Je pense que si on l'écoutait ensemble on remuerait la tête en même temps, et on se ferait chier aux mêmes moments !
Mais je suis quand même curieux de voir ce que les papys sont capables de sortir !

Pietro · Posté le: Lun 28 Jan 2013 13:32 Sujet du message:

Ca va sans doute pas s'appeler 13 finalement.

Pingouin · Posté le: Lun 28 Jan 2013 13:49 Sujet du message:

J'ai fait appel à Edith.

Pour la teneur de l'album, ça me rassure. Ils ont l'air de vouloir s'éloigner du Doom monochrome du précédent.

kroboy · Posté le: Lun 28 Jan 2013 14:12 Sujet du message:

t'aurais dû appeler Ricardo plutôt
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Cedric · Dave Mitaine Inscrit le: 27 Oct 2010 Messages: 5504

Brad Wilk ?
:kiss:

Hâte de voir son jeu plaqué sur celui de Iommi et de Butler :kiss:

Pietro

Rubin wanted Ginger Baker for Sabbath

Always-controversial producer Rick Rubin wanted Cream drummer Ginger Baker to replace Bill Ward in Black Sabbath, guitarist Tony Iommi has revealed.

The band’s plans for 13, their first album with Ozzy Osbourne since 1978′s Never Say Die were thrown into turmoil after Ward refused to participate saying he hadn’t been offered a contact that was “signable.”

But Iommi, who faced his own challenges with a cancer battle, rejected Rubin’s suggestion of calling Baker, who was recently named rock’s craziest drummer.

The guitarist tells Rolling Stone: “I thought, ‘Bloody hell!’ I just couldn’t see that.”

He’d already struggled with Ward’s announcement. “I didn’t know Bill was having these issues when we got together,” he reflects. “He never even mentioned it to us. It was quite confusing. We wanted him involved but it was just getting too hard.”

Frontman Osbourne states: “You can’t go, ‘Well, I don’t like it.’ You get off your ass and you get your shit together. The life of a bohemian rock star is fucking long over.”

Bassist Geezer Butler describes pre-production sessions as “confusing” after Rubin – who’s maintained his controversial reputation after being blamed for delays in Slayer’s next album – told them to try and recover the mindset they’d had on their 1970 debut album. Butler says: “We had to unlearn everything we’d learned.”

Rage Against The Machine drummer Brad Wilk was finally chosen to fill Ward’s role. The album – which Butler recently said may not be called 13 after all – is released in June and includes tracks called End Of The Beginning, Age Of Reason and God Is Dead.

Despite Rubin’s intentions, Osbourne reflects that the band’s outlook has changed significantly in their 43-year history. He describes the album as “Satanic blues” but reports of God Is Dead: “It starts off, ‘God is dead,’ but at the end it says, ‘I don’t believe that God is dead.’”
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Pingouin · Jean-Pierre Elkathrash Inscrit le: 15 Jan 2010 Messages: 5306

Pingouin · Jean-Pierre Elkathrash Inscrit le: 15 Jan 2010 Messages: 5306

Les journalistes de Revolver ont pu écouter 3 titres. Les descriptifs donnent envie, mais méfiage, c'était pareil pour The Devil You Know :

Truthfully, we are a little squeamish about hearing these tracks for the first time. It’s been almost 35 years since Ozzy Osbourne, Tony Iommi, and Geezer Butler last made a studio album together—1978’s disjointed Never Say Die—and nearly 38 since they convened to record 1975’s Sabotage, the last great long-player from the original incarnation of Black Sabbath. Subsequent attempts to reunite the original lineup in the studio have resulted only in a couple of forgettable “modern metal” tracks (“Psycho Man” and “Selling My Soul,” included on 1998’s otherwise excellent live album, Reunion) and an aborted 2001 session with über-producer Rick Rubin. So really, what are the odds that this new music will be any good, let alone be worthy of this legendary band’s impossibly influential legacy?

Then, of course, there’s the troubling (and, for many fans, deal-breaking) fact that 13, the Rick Rubin-produced Black Sabbath reunion album that’s tentatively scheduled for a June release, was recorded by only three-fourths of the classic Sabs lineup: drummer Bill Ward opted out of the reunion in early 2012 over some well-publicized contractual disagreements. After much fan speculation regarding Ward’s replacement, it was finally revealed this January that Brad Wilk—best known for his work with Rage Against the Machine and Audioslave—had been brought in by Rubin to handle the album’s drum duties. Though Wilk is an undeniably talented player, the news of his involvement was met with more puzzlement than elation from Sabbath diehards.

But whatever trepidation we may have is quickly put to rest by the slab of prime Sabbath sorcery that is “End of the Beginning,” the first track we hear. “Is this the end of the beginning? Or just the beginning of the end?” Ozzy asks mournfully over Iommi’s doomy opening riff, sounding like an older but not necessarily wiser version of the dread-filled oaf who wondered “What is this that stands before me?” at the beginning of 1970’s “Black Sabbath”. Boasting more badass riffs than you can shake a sack of dwarves at, the track only staggers to a close after some eight gloriously demonic minutes, with Iommi’s stump-fingered outro solo leaving a spiral-shaped exclamation point on the proceedings.

Equally impressive is “God Is Dead,” a nine-minute track that moves effortlessly from an ominous opening powered by Wilk’s tribal tom-tom pattern into a swinging groove reminiscent of Sabotage opener “Hole in the Sky.” “Up from the gloom, I rise out of my tomb,” intones a double-tracked Ozzy, and you can practically smell the clouds of crypt dust wafting up with him.

After the sonic feast of “End of the Beginning” and “God Is Dead,” it’s almost impossible to fully digest the seven-minute “Epic,” which could also easily pass for a previously unheard outtake from Sabbath’s highly creative 1972-75 period. And unfortunately, it’s also the last song we get to hear today, in part because there’s apparently still some confusion over which (and how many) of the other tracks recorded during the recent sessions with Rubin will actually make into onto the album.

It took a meeting with Rick Rubin to give the band a sense of focus for the new album; according to Butler, the producer played their malevolently bluesy 1970 debut back to them and announced, “Forget heavy metal—this is what I want the vibe to be. This is the direction. Don’t copy it, but keep it in mind. Play it like a live gig.”

“We originally were a jazz-blues band,” Osbourne explains. “On the first album, it was very bluesy, very jammy, and that’s what Rick wanted. He didn’t want the songs to be verse, chorus, verse, chorus, middle eight, bridge—he wanted it to flow.”

Pietro

Je pensais avoir vu cette vidéo ici mais non: An Inside Look At Black Sabbath in the Studio
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Pingouin · Jean-Pierre Elkathrash Inscrit le: 15 Jan 2010 Messages: 5306

Putain, Ozzy...
A 01'03, on dirait un p'tit vieux Parkinsonien, à 2 doigts de se ramasser dès qu'il fait plus de 3 pas. Neutral