DREAM THEATER - A Dramatic Turn Of Events (13 Septembre)

bap175 · Inscrit le: 16 Oct 2007 Messages: 8356 Localisation: Nantes

... et du bien aussi tiens.
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dupinguez · Posté le: Mer 06 Oct 2010 14:21 Sujet du message:

En plus j'ai écouté l'interview en version radio et James LaBrie ressort beaucoup plus sympathique et moins péteux que sur l'extrait retranscrit. Il a l'air vraiment sympa, ce mec, en fait! Déduction immédiate : Portnoy est donc un connard! Die Portnoy, Die!!!

Et Myung, je suis sur qu'il écoute des trucs bien pires que Dimmu ou Slayer, genre du Visual Kei ou des trucs comme ça. Ca va saigner.
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lejoker · Posté le: Mer 06 Oct 2010 14:24 Sujet du message:

Je crois que Myung est plutôt metal. Je me souviens qu'il a composé certains riffs bien \m/ de The Glass Prison.

Et pour LaBrie, c'est clairement le mec le + drôle du groupe. Je me rappelle avoir vu des interviews ou des vidéos de lui qui m'ont vraiment fait marrer. Il a l'air bien bien cool.
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Baker · Posté le: Mer 06 Oct 2010 19:16 Sujet du message:

C'est quand même l'inventeur du rap canadien, tzabernâcle ! lol

Et puis on dirait que son album solo déchire un tout petit peu le fion de Black Holes Machin, et ça c'est pas forcément plaisant.

Allez j'ai changé d'opinion : du coup, vivement la suite !

lejoker · Posté le: Mer 06 Oct 2010 19:50 Sujet du message:

barbapopo · Fantomaths Inscrit le: 10 Aoû 2007 Messages: 5528

Ça y est, ça vire au psychodrame :

Earlier today, a registered user of Portnoy's official forum asked the site's moderators if threads about LaBrie's upcoming solo tour were being deleted from the MikePortnoy.com site. Portnoy himself then chose to respond, writing, "I'm afraid your eyes are not playing tricks on you."

He continued, "I was willing to ignore that the [DREAM THEATER] guys insisted all [Mike Portnoy]-related stuff be removed from DreamTheater.net [DREAM THEATER's official web site].... but then on Monday reading the Blabbermouth headlines with James [LaBrie] insensitively proclaming they are 'not sad at all' about my departure from DREAM THEATER, I cannot in 'happy' standing promote his solo tour....

"I am so sad it comes to this, but I am even more shocked and hurt by James' completely disrespectful quote."

[Note: The thread containing Mike's comments has since been deleted from Portnoy's forum.]

A short time after Mike's quote appeared on the MikePortnoy.com site, LaBrie released the following statement in an attempt to clarify the comments that were attributed to the singer in the "Used Bin Radio" interview:

"It seems there is a misunderstanding.

"When I said I was not sad with Mike's departure, it, unfortunately, leaves plenty of room to misconstrue such words.

"No one can tell you or me how to think and feel.

"Initially with Mike's departure I was extremely upset, down and shocked. But one needs to deal and work through these emotions in order to arrive at a more positive and optimistic place. That is where I am now and was when the interview took place.

"Let me put it more plain and simple. Life does not afford us the luxury to wallow in our sorrow. You have to deal with the situation at hand and make it a productive and positive endeavor. In other words, onward and upward.

"Mike made it perfectly clear why he chose the current path. I would much rather his words be the definitive answer.

"In the end, does it really matter what our views are? Other than human curiosity, it doesn't change a thing.

"I have said my piece and believe there is no room for misinterpretation.

"I will give no further weight to this subject; all has been said."

CCC · Posté le: Jeu 07 Oct 2010 18:14 Sujet du message:

LaBrie vient de mettre dix ans d'âge mental dans la tronche à Portnoy. lol

>CCC<
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lejoker · Posté le: Jeu 07 Oct 2010 18:32 Sujet du message:

En même temps, ça se comprend : Vu son ego, il doit être totalement dégoûté 1/ que le groupe continue sans lui, 2/ que les autres membres ne soient pas en pleine dépression, et 3/ que la terre tourne encore.
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Baker · Posté le: Jeu 07 Oct 2010 19:55 Sujet du message:

Oui, c'est devenu très vite triste et malsain ; en même temps si je disais "c'était prévisible" on me traiterait de tous les noms et je ne serai pas seul en plus !

Conclusion : si autant de pression se libère en si peu de temps, c'est que le groupe AVAIT besoin de casser.

Perso j'ai toujours pensé que DT aurait eu besoin de se calmer à la seconde où le couvre-feu a été déclaré après Score. Chaque seconde après ce concert n'a fait que repousser l'échéance de l'inévitable rupture.

Lucificum · Posté le: Jeu 07 Oct 2010 21:00 Sujet du message:

Mais non mais non ! Ils préparent un poisson d'avril (pas mal en avance, mais la sauce va monter, croyez moi : Petrucci va pisser sur Portnoy, Labrie va dire ses 4 vérités par médias interposés et Portnoy va faire une tentative de suicide - quant à Rudess et Myung, ils vont faire leur coming out et afficher leur homosexualité partagée libertine en plein jour, et on apprendra après que lol non, c'est pour de faux).
Ou pas.
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dreamer · Posté le: Jeu 07 Oct 2010 22:09 Sujet du message:

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lejoker · Posté le: Jeu 07 Oct 2010 23:31 Sujet du message:

Pingouin · Posté le: Ven 08 Oct 2010 0:01 Sujet du message:

Je vois pas pourquoi tout ce qui concernait Porn Toy a été viré du site de DT. Ils pouvaient pas créer une section "former members" où mettre tout ça ?
Ils voulaient lui donner une leçon et lui montrer qu'il est pas indispensable ? C'est déjà fait en continuant sans lui.

Sa réaction à lui est complètement puérile mais c'est pas étonnant.

Pingouin · Posté le: Ven 08 Oct 2010 1:16 Sujet du message:

Et ça continue. Portnoy réagit à la lettre ouverte d'un fan (en italique/gras, les extraits de la lettre).

"How do you just press forward with deleting threads [on the MikePortnoy.com forum that have to do with DREAM THEATER] and pretending nothing happened?"

"Well, actually, that's how a lot of this started.....I DIDN'T 'press forward with deleting threads and pretend nothing happened' (although now I kinda wished I did). I posted my reason why, and perhaps THAT was a mistake... but I thought I owed it to you guys to explain why the threads disappeared."

"Do you really think you are in the right here?"

"Honestly, I'm not exactly sure what I did wrong... I've always been very open, honest, genuine and don't beat around the bush or pull punches...
I was hurt that I was removed from the [DREAM THEATER] site and I was hurt by the 'not sad at all' headline I read on Blabbermouth... [referring to a quote from a recent interview with DREAM THEATER singer James LaBrie in which James stated that he was 'not sad at all' following Mike's departure from the band. — Ed.] (granted, I didn't hear the whole interview and was just shocked by the out-of-context headline...). So for being duped by the media and speaking out on it, for that I am sorry as well..."

"You've been treating people like garbage lately"

"I honestly have no idea how I am 'treating people like garbage lately' either????? I have tried to be as respectful, delicate and sensitive as possible.... If anything, I have been the one taking a beating left, right and center... my Facebook, Twitter and other websites have been completely taken over by angry fans (f*ck [AVENGED SEVENFOLD], f*ck you, etc etc)...people who have obviously not read my reasons and simply on the attack....
You have NO IDEA how hard it is to watch thousands upon thousand of these posts... when I have given my heart and soul to these 'fans' for all these years... and I am more hurt than they are right now.... yet still, I bite my lip and try my best to continue to be as respectful, delicate and sensitive as possible.... I'm treating THEM like garbage lately????? I'm still baffled..."

"Please take a higher road and don't come off so childish and immature and bitter! I don't care if I get banned for saying all this, but you can't justify acting irrationally while saying "this is my site, I say what I want" thing. I have never seen so many people in complete disagreement with something you have said before. Maybe it's a sign to sit back, unplug that Internet connection and really think about where you are as a person."

"I will indeed do this... Marlene [Mike's wife] and I have talked about this and I promised I was going to not read this stuff anymore and let it upset me... or chime in and post anymore either (she's probably gonna kill me for posting this!), but rather than NOT responding to this 'open letter' and be perceived as somehow being 'immature, bitter or childish,' I decided to bite the bullet one last time, respond and properly sign off before disappearing..."

"I hope you don't see this as me bashing you on any level. It's the honest assessment of what's been happening lately. I know you said that you hoped it wouldn't turn ugly. YOU started it."

"I'm still not sure how *I* started it???? My reaction yesterday was just that.... a *RE*action to an action (or two for that matter....even if one was 'out of context'). That's not 'starting'... that's 'reacting'...

"Keep the private matters private. Best of luck."

"I do agree there as well... and it's probably nobody's business, but after reading that Blabbermouth headline, I e-mailed all four guys [in DREAM THEATER] and none of them ever responded.... (and they still haven't...).
I would've loved to have kept it private and hoped they would've responded when I reached out to them all, but they never did... but then again, that's between us, so that's the last I will comment on that...
So being James never responded to me personally and chose to do it 'publicly,' I'd like to publicly apologize to him for apparently misunderstanding his quote out of context and deleting those threads... (although I still cant understand why it's OK for DreamTheater.net to delete [Mike Portnoy] stuff, but not vise-versa....but it's OK....it's also the last I will comment on that as well!)

And on that note, it is time for me to retire from posting for a while....
Contrary to what many people are thinking and saying (both here on my beloved forum or other places where I am somehow now 'the bad guy'), I am indeed hurting over all of this.... contrary to yesterday's Blabbermouth headline, *I* am indeed VERY sad over all of this....

These additional posts have already gone way too far (whether sensationalized by the media or simply read by the fans) and I need the three stickied threads (the press release, the Eddie Trunk interview, and my note to forum) as well as one upcoming exclusive interview with Prog magazine, to be all I say for a while....

Even in these tough times, I love you all dearly and cherish the relationship that I have developed with you all for all these years....
Please try to understand my situation and know it's been the hardest thing I've ever done....but it does NOT have to change anything between US!!"

Lucificum · Posté le: Ven 08 Oct 2010 7:39 Sujet du message:

Tout cela me rend un peu triste... Neutral

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Doomy · Posté le: Ven 08 Oct 2010 8:01 Sujet du message:

Il me fait pitié quand même... Neutral

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Dizayeure · Posté le: Ven 08 Oct 2010 8:15 Sujet du message:

C'est surtout la lettre du "fan" que je trouve complètement immature et débile (c'est pas la fin du monde si le batteur de DT part, faut arrêter aussi...). La seule erreur que Portnoy fait c'est de répondre et de se perdre en explications. Il devrait vraiment laisser pisser, dans 2 mois on n'en parlera déjà plus.
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Blackmore · Posté le: Ven 08 Oct 2010 8:27 Sujet du message:

en même temps, ça étonne quelqu'un ?

Je veux dire, c'est facile de mettre ça sur le compte de l'immaturité de Portnoy gnagnagna. Mais AMHA le vrai problème la-dedans, c'est le net.

Portnoy passe pas mal de temps connecté sur son forum à réagir à ce qu'il voit et lit. Forcément, quand il tombe sur l'interview de Labrie, il réagit à chaud. Dream Theater, c'est (était) un peu toute sa vie. Peut-on le (les) blamer pour ne pas réagir de la bonne manière ?

Ce sont des musiciens très doués, mais ça ne veut pas dire qu'au niveau communication et rapport humain, ils sont plus doués que d'autre.

Faut prendre un peu de recul avec tout ça. Combien de gens se sont déjà brouillés pour des choses qui, de notre point de vue, semblent tout à fait futile ?

Nous aussi nous réagissons parfois avec beaucoup d'immaturité. Il n'y a pas besoin d'aller chercher bien loin, suffit de regarder des webzines comme le notre (même si on s'en sort plutôt très bien chez les eternels de ce point de vue la) qui implose parfois via des brouilles entre les membres. Et que dire des forums ?

C'est la vie les mecs et franchement, on s'en tape non ? Tout ça, c'est du folklore.
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