MACHINE HEAD - Bloodstone & Diamonds (11 Novembre)

Pingouin · Jean-Pierre Elkathrash Inscrit le: 15 Jan 2010 Messages: 5306

Ils ont déjà photocopié Burn my Eyes et The Blackening, pourquoi ils le feraient pas avec Through the Ashes ?
Un deuxième comme ça maintenant qu'ils sont habitués à jouer ensemble (plus l'apport du bassiste noob), ça peut donner du très bon.
Et surtout ça donnerait un deuxième album varié dans leur disco, loin des monolithes qu'ils ont l'habitude de pondre. Ce serait pas un mal.

S1phonique

C'est sur que je chipote ... Un deuxième TTaoE y a pire !
J'ai surtout hâte des lives.
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Droom · Oslow Inscrit le: 15 Fév 2012 Messages: 3419

Through The Ashes... est mon préféré de la bande à Flynn. Et effectivement, le morceau traîne un peu de ce côté là. Franchement, je suis agréablement surpris à la première écoute. C'est assez tentaculesque, mine de rien, sans être prise de tête (la piste de batterie est... wow, such toms, very ride, wow).

Ouais, une bonne surprise. La première concernant ce nouvel album, en fait.

Elb · Inscrit le: 01 Mar 2014 Messages: 36

C'est vraiment très bon, une très bonne surprise .
De ce que je lis dans les différentes interviews sur le net on sent vraiment le groupe posé qui a bien digéré la période locust-the blackening et qui revient a un son plus simple mais plus efficace :kiss:

Silverbard

Et bien, quitte à venir foutre la merde, je le trouve à chier par terre ce nouveau titre.

J'adore Blackening et Locust mais Through The Ashes m'a toujours laissé de marbre (passé "Imperium"), je ne sais pas s'il y a un rapport...

Les lignes vocales sont bien moisies, le refrain est une atrocité. Les soli sont à jeter. Rythmiquement, okay ça balance et ça groove mais je trouve la structure du titre pas du tout fluide. On dirait plutôt un grossier patchwork des gimmicks habituels (harmoniques, hammer/tapping, moshparts,...)

Bref, vous me décevez...

Et moi j'aime bien la branlette et le rococo-kitch ! :non:

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Oni²

Je tends plutôt vers l'avis de Silverbard sur Killers & Kings, sans partager son opinion sur TTAOTE que j'adore, sorti de quelques fillers.

Le riff d'intro est une horreur, ils ont fait plus plat que ça mais c'est vraiment bof. Les couplets par contre j'aime bien. Le refrain s'il y en avait vraiment un, je l'ai déjà oublié. Et les solis aussi.

Et je +1 la branlette/rococo-kitch

Edit a écouté leur reprise d'Ignite entre temps, c'est pas mal, déjà bien mieux que Killers & Kings, mais bon, c'est une reprise ...
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Pingouin · Jean-Pierre Elkathrash Inscrit le: 15 Jan 2010 Messages: 5306

La reprise : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39NbBAkbLug

S1phonique

c'est pas vraiment le matos qui m'attire ... Confused

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Droom · Oslow Inscrit le: 15 Fév 2012 Messages: 3419

Cénul.
Der1.

Gazus

Je trouve ça énorme. C'est du cover tout simple mais l'original est tellement à des lieux de ce à quoi on pourrait s'attendre (du punk/core limite à roulettes) et le groupe le reprend autant avec sa patte propre que le côté jumpy/hystérique de l'original que le résultat est vraiment très rafraichissant. Ensuite, ça reste complètement juvénile. Mais ça marche à fond sur moi.
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Le plus dur dans cette rupture, c'était pas tant l'effacer de ma vie, c'était surtout effacer les 4 To de film porno qu'on avait tourné tous les deux. Multicam, 1080p, son 5.1... Y avait plus de place sur le disque dur après la séquence d'intro. Mais une si belle séquence d'intro. J'allais pas effacer ça.

Ghost · Inscrit le: 22 Fév 2014 Messages: 52

"Yep, we're still in the studio, and as much as I'd love to say we're done, we still got a few weeks left to go. So yes, you did the math correctly, that's 10 weeks we've been in here, WHEW! I know, seems like a while, but in reality, it took us 3 months to record "The Blackening", (most of which was guitars), so were about the on par with that.

Not to say that this record is anything like "The Blackening", it isn't. But what I would say is that the song are as epic in scope, if not more so, except where "The Blackening" was more epic in the guitar department, this is more epic in the EVERYTHING department. Strings arrangements, keyboard arrangements, massive vocal layering (one track, "Sail Into The Black" has 40 tracks of vocals), drum overdubs, and of course the standard-Machine Head quadruple-tracking of the guitars.

We sent the first finished tracks ("Killers & Kings" and "Night Of Long Knives") off to Colin Richardson to mix over in England, and we will continue hammering out the remaining songs, and the remaining 12 tracks of guitar to do. We should finish the track formerly known as "DokVanSchenkerSnake" (now called "Ghosts Will Haunt These Bones") today.

Jared has been laying down some serious bass playing through his new Spector bass, an Avalon DI, and a great sounding Aguilar Bass Amp, plus singing some KILLER high vocal harmonies. Phil has been laying down some of the tastiest, chewiest, most sing-a-long leads I've ever heard him do, and that's saying something.

I know I brought up "The Blackening" earlier, but I want to re-iterate, I don't feel this record sounds like "The Blackening". It feels like we're still moving forward. If I HAD to compare it to another record of ours, it may be closer to "Through The Ashes Of Empires" in one aspect only, the simpler song arrangements. It's still what I would just call Classic-Metal, but we've simplified beats, simplified riffs, taken the unnecessary complicated-ness of something and made it simple.

I've even applied that to my lyrics, where I've stripped out a lot of extra words ("the's", "and's, etc), and invented a lyrical technique I call "clustering", where you cluster vowels or cluster "plosives" ("K's", "T's", "Ch's") together to make it sound heavier, or flow better. It doesn't read all that poetically, but in the song it sounds really cool. I've also really worked hard on sharpening up my rhyme-schemes, finding clever places to place rhymes, instead of the usual place at the end of a line, or even again, "clustering" rhymes. It makes an abstract concept like "Killers & Kings" (which references 20+ Tarot Cards, and that I'm very proud of the end result) to have a real meaning.

Out of that stripped down musical landscape, we've then taken that new (to us at least) "extra space" and added in layers of strings, layers of dark, ambient keys, layers and layers of vocals, and it sounds HUGE. I just watched a documentary of "A Night At The Opera" by Queen, and while I'd never EVER put myself in Freddie Mercury's-league, there have definitely been times during this recording where I've drawn a parallel to the epic-ness involved to make this album be what it needs to be.

The "A Night At The Opera" Of Metal? Well... that's a fuckin' stretch, we are just a metal band at the end of the day, but we're on to something here."
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En gros, il loue la simplicité et les arrangements "directs" de cet album qui, il le précise bien, possède des milliouzes de pistes dans tous les sens.

Very Happy

Ghost · Inscrit le: 22 Fév 2014 Messages: 52

C'est tout à fait ça Mr. Green

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Pingouin · Jean-Pierre Elkathrash Inscrit le: 15 Jan 2010 Messages: 5306

Pingouin · Jean-Pierre Elkathrash Inscrit le: 15 Jan 2010 Messages: 5306

Le single étrenné sur scène : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-X2VR6JLWGk

Pingouin · Jean-Pierre Elkathrash Inscrit le: 15 Jan 2010 Messages: 5306

Cedric · Dave Mitaine Inscrit le: 27 Oct 2010 Messages: 5504

It can be boring so again, feel free to go over to the Youtube side bar there and click on something else if you want to lol

J'ai hâte quand même !

Et malgré sa réputation de gros con, qu'est-ce que j'aime ce type :ch:

Pietro

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Pingouin · Jean-Pierre Elkathrash Inscrit le: 15 Jan 2010 Messages: 5306

01. Now We Die
02. Killers & Kings
03. Ghosts Will Haunt My Bones
04. Night Of Long Knives
05. Sail Into The Black
06. Eyes Of The Dead
07. Beneath The Silt
08. In Comes The Flood
09. Damage Inside
10. Game Over
11. Imaginal Cells
12. Take Me Through The Fire

Flynn said of the title:

“Without getting too philosophical on ya, bloodstone and diamonds represent two of the hardest materials on earth, it is also a lyric from the opening track of the album “Now We Die“. In many cultures the bloodstone has been used as an amulet to protect against evil, and is the symbol of justice. Diamonds are the hardest natural material on earth (which is how we feel about our music), and it also represents the diamond logo I drew 22 years ago (in my wife’s apartment on Dover St. in Oakland) that has become the symbol for the band.”

“10 songs, an interlude, and an instrumental with an audio collage of spoken word snippets (think “Real Eyes, Realize, Real Lies“) by Dr. Bruce Lipton and Steve Bhaerman, taken from their (incredibly inspiring) audiobook “Spontaneous Evolution“.
It was once again produced by your truly The General and Juan Urteaga, and like the last 7 out of 8 albums masterfully mixed by Colin Richardson. Additional tracking, editing, and mixing was done with heavy metal legend Andy Sneap and Steve Lagudi.
Guest musicians include 2 different string quartets featuring the original Quartet Rouge that appeared on our last album “Unto The Locust“. And a new all-male quartet which we featured on the song “In Comes The Flood“.

String arrangements for 2 of the songs “Now We Die” and “Sail Into The Black” came courtesy of myself and Rhys Fulber who has worked with everyone from Sarah McLachlan, to Fear Factory, and the string arrangement for “In Comes The Flood” came courtesy of myself and ex-Worship and current-Bring Me The Horizon keyboardist Jordan Fish, who is a producer in his own right."

Cedric · Dave Mitaine Inscrit le: 27 Oct 2010 Messages: 5504

Rha j'ai hâte d'être le 12 quand même !
Même si ça va me laisser que 2 jours pour écouter l'album Mr. Green